So Confusing, but its something i need to get my head around here.

Why is the front truck on a DH setup at a greater angle than the back? As this makes the front more turny than the back(i think), so, wouldent you loose traction from the back wheels when cornering hard on your front more turny truck...and less traction = less speed....(i think) or am i wrong. can some1 explain the reasoning to me, in a way a dumbass can understand. What im looking for is a Turny, Stable truck set up...

Randal 180s, 42 base plates, sabre bushings? ... Or...sabres?....

Heres my other problem...Im poor!...advice Please....

and hell whilst im posting here, stability and turnyness.......Topmount or dropmount? Is topmount more turny and drifty than dropmounts which are more stable with a lower centre of grav so you corner better?...Argh...

In conclusion, TURNY trucks, FAST and STABLE, can we get this without costing an arm and a leg? (Or an entire student loan)

Cheers =)

Speed wobbles and the like are seen to come from the rear truck. By deadening the rear truck you gain stabilty. However, you need to get round corners so a turny front truck is good! Think about cars, all the turn is up front.



Sometimes, maybe. there's a perfect ratio of front/back turn that actually gives you MORE traction in the back. Slalom racers have a dead back end and turny front too. I find the back drifts out more easily with a more turny back end. You can generally be faster through the corners with a turny front/stable back setup. The evo is MADE to produce that effect.



Either of those setups would be rad, depends which you can get cheaper! You can often score a 2nd hand set of Randals somewhere.


Topmount = More traction, less 'stable', better cornering.
Dropmount = More drift, more 'stable'

It all depends on your style. I like a stable, drifty setup so I have a drop deck. How do you like to hit the hills and what kind of runs will you be skating? Straight bombs? Loads of hairpins? Like to drift? Stick? Need stability?

Hmm, well, at the moment im trying to feel comfortable at speeds above 35 (bit of a noob) when im above 30 im terrified of footbreaking..lol.

I like Drifting, infact, i love drifting, as i feel its alot more...positive to get around corners with, as if your cornering not expecting to drift, and you do, it can end badly.

I started on a spooky, got a LY dropspeed, and i enjoy them alot even tho the LYDS is shit and not long enough for my lanky self. I basically want the best of everything, and so far ive found the blue kryptos nat gave me at bribabri are the ultimate in everything riding.... as wheels play as much a part as anything else.

I had a ride on a topmount the otherday, it felt quite nice, but im just unsure.

Im thinking of raiding the bristol car park session on the 20th to have a play, and gt others to criticise how i do things, so i can get better.

Thanks very much for the input gav. Muchly appreciated.

after skating a garage with rob last week, i will say that drifty wheels (like the blue kryps) are bad for garage bombing. i was able to cut inside and keep a tighter line on my cults. you could actually see his board sliding away. super fun to race though.

i guess thats why the houston boys want the grippyest wheels possible.
http://wafflesole.skatefurther.net/houston-garage-riders/

I know most people don't seem to like them in the UK, but that all points to a nice drop deck to me! Drops decks are easier to footbrake because they're low and they also feel very nice and stable. They're all I ride when not tech sliding or park skating (Wouldn't be much good for that! hah!).



I might be at that if I can find someone to give me a lift back or if I can stay over. And will have a drop deck with me heh, either the nemesis or Dangerous Criminal. I'd recommend both for DH, sick decks! You might like the nemmy actually, based on what you were saying about not enough room. It's got almost as much foot platform as a Demon Seed, not too much of a drop so it's only very slightly lower than if it was a regular drop through, but you get the nice solid footpockets of a drop deck, yet a bit more traction than normal.

Blue kryps are indeed a sick all round wheel, love them for everyday riding. If you want a wheel that sticks like glue, yet has a lovely smooth drift when it does let go, Nats right about the Cults. I compared them to fresh bigzigz at the St Aubin freeride in France, they gripped just as hard, yet I got thrown off when the bigz started to slip, whereas with the cults the driift is so smooth you can feel the back come out a bit, but don't even need to put a hand down half the time! Stand up drifting gnar! Haven't and won't ride anything else for proper dh since.

Hopefully see you up Brizzle garage race, gnarfest

please stop sustaining the myth that drop decks are easier to footbrake. They are not. Some people find the myth to be true, but that has nothing to do with the deck. its the rider. I find drop down decks ot be a pain in the arse to do anything on. including footbrake, nothign to do with the deck. its the rider.

Depends what kind of footbraking you are talking about...If you are pushing all day, a drop deck is easier to brake. The less you bend your knee, the less you use your quads, the less tired you get. Simple as.

theres no myth about it, theres nothing to do with whats easer full-stop, its about whats easer for the individual person finds easer.

i find drop decks easer because i find its less twitchy with one foot on the board

simples

yeeeeeesssss, myself and lots of other skaters find it more difficult, cos the drop down decks dont respond as sharp, so its more difficult to control while footbraking than a topmount.

SO its nowt to do with the deck. but the style of the rider. some prefer top, some prefer a drop of some kind. preference thats all.

Saying that one deck is easier than the other is daft. its like saying a 8.75 is easier to skate bowls than a 8.5, it doesnt mean anything, cos it depends on the rider.

Just trying to get real usefull knowledge out there, rather than sustain mythical knowledge about certain decks making certain things easier.

I know that I'd need a new hip by now if I was pushing and footbreaking with a top mount. I'm little and the lower decks work for me. I can appreciate that both of em need different skills. I think its about the level of adjustment you need to make when you stick your foot down whilst riding each type of deck.

I can appreciate experience and the knowledge that everyone brings to this, and for me, in a distance arena, the dropped deck is all about comfort. The majority of distance trips are concerned with efficiency, conservation of energy, reduced effort in areas you can affect, unlike the unknown terrain. With a pack on, knowing my own dimensions, I know what is more comfortable on my lumbar region. On a distance trip, you're not just wearing a helmet, you're wearing your home, you're driving your own tour bus. Home comforts, innit.